Fri 16 Nov

Discuss the forecasts and let others know your thoughts about where you are going flying in the Dales.
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Martin Baxter
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Fri 16 Nov

Post by Martin Baxter » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:06 pm

Thanks to Brian for drawing my attention to a possible flying day on the Shoutbox.

XC Weather suggests moderate winds from the SE; RASP suggests that it might be a bit stronger. But it's going to be cloudy for most of the day with low cloud/fog in the morning. The question is whether the cloud will lift sufficiently during the afternoon. The Mountain Weather forecast (https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/wea ... hire-dales) says:
Chance of cloud-free mountain/hill tops at 600m

20% in the morning with extensive cloud, bases 400-600m, but becoming 70% early afternoon as cloud lifts for a while. Then 20% in evening with cloud becoming extensive again above 400m.
Whernside launch is about 570m (1750') and Semer Water (shoulder) about 450m (1600'). RASP (CU Cloudbase (Sfc LCL) MSL) suggests a base between 1,000 - 2,000'.

So there is a possibility of flying, but it isn't great. Depends on how desperate you are and if you're happy to lay your glider out on wet ground. If I were thinking about going out I'd head for Semer rather than Whernside. It's lower so less wind and a (slightly) higher base.

Anyone think I'm being too pessimistic?

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Re: Fri 16 Nov

Post by sigma7man » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:37 pm

That about sums it up Martin - thanks.

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Re: Fri 16 Nov

Post by Martin Baxter » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:22 pm

Webcam view of Whernside early afternoon.
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Re: Fri 16 Nov

Post by aeros » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:45 pm

Rasp and other forecasts indicated wave (typical of the time of year in this direction) so the site choice makes a lot of difference. Semer is often blown out when other places higher are OK. Friday a case in point.

Checked out Semer at 12 OClock .... wind on and a lot more east than forecast everywhere. Basically blown out.

Went back to Whernside to see three glider flying so walked up .... no wind until I hit the slope then light E. Took off part way up slope - wind on, fine and very lifty. Due to the low cloudbase we had to stay low but the lift band was way out from the hill and if was almost possible to fly up from near bottom of hill. Never hardly used the hill just back and forwards way out front. Landed in sun as a slot formed over Chapel le Dale in a 8 -10 NE ... perfect for groundhandling dry and clean.

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Re: Fri 16 Nov

Post by Martin Baxter » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:12 pm

Shame I didn't know you were going: I could have been tempted out. I need a kick up the backside to motivate me at this time of year. Mind you Whernside is nearly 2 hours away for me so you'd probably have been in the pub by the time I got there!

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Re: Fri 16 Nov

Post by AgeingHippy » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:18 pm

Saw a couple of nutters flying Oldm Man Coniston on Saturday. Was walking on top and had to really lean into the wind. Thought they were being suicidal :-O
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Re: Fri 16 Nov

Post by aeros » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:37 pm

Sorry Martin ... but it just wasn't one of those days where it was certain enought to tempt people out - certainly not from distance. I only live five mins from Whernside but still drove past it thinking not suitable. Done that a few times to my cost.

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